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	<title>Comments on: JVP&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;#039;s upaadhi kada and upaadhi dan-sel</title>
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		<title>By: YAKA</title>
		<link>http://www.educationforum.lk/2007/06/jvps-upaadhi-kada-and-upaadhi-dan-sel/comment-page-2/#comment-16453</link>
		<dc:creator>YAKA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gajaba sahodaraya needs private cources tobe opened in public universities. But for his little,brain washed mind he couldnt understand the current situation in local universities and that reflect most of the local uni student are just theory dumpers. Ill explain the situation i the simpliest way i can. otherwise u wont understand anything.
currently all our public uni are running with full capasity. that means lecture hall r fully occupied, and no one can get in with out pulling out some one whos allready studing. SO how come the university facilitate paid student. I dont think in any part of the world a student will volanterly stand up and say..Sir Im rich..so charge from me..also no where in this world students are being openly descriminated based on their financial status..if it s implemented,there willbe two gangs of studends..the rich gang and the poor gang and damned jeppas like you in the poor gang will beat many of the sudens who r in the rich gang...so what im saying is even a local uni can succesfuly undertake  vocational qualifications that requires low level of resources, they wont be able to handle separated or integrated bachelors degrees that require some students to pay a fee.

alsoi have to make some corrections...i said most of the local uni students r theory dumpers..but it applies mostly to art and commerce students.

Majority of local students r getting out of the uni as art graduates(mainly becase of the least entry requirements,) and theirs nothing suprised to see them protesting on roads to get a pina job(high supply-low demand,)

In commerce faculties they are learned to hate businesses and are regulerly exposed to damn jvp and other labor union type activities in sidethe uni
Also they learn loads of theoris but they dont learn how to apply them...the funny part is only few of them can remember theoris after the graduation.
Their attitude is being changed and no pvt company wants to recruit that type of people..JVP..yeah v all know it
Finally i have to say JVP is the caus of this war, they r the cause of countries por developmet. and they r the cause of local unis to beregarded as low quality.

YES I hate JVP....Specially somavansa who is manupilating poor weak people agains the country...(his son is studing and uk uni...wonder why he didnt let himstudy in j&#039;pura)

gajaba i dnt expect any replys from u...coz i feel taling with u is useless....any way u can say what ever u want bt dont expect my reply...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gajaba sahodaraya needs private cources tobe opened in public universities. But for his little,brain washed mind he couldnt understand the current situation in local universities and that reflect most of the local uni student are just theory dumpers. Ill explain the situation i the simpliest way i can. otherwise u wont understand anything.<br />
currently all our public uni are running with full capasity. that means lecture hall r fully occupied, and no one can get in with out pulling out some one whos allready studing. SO how come the university facilitate paid student. I dont think in any part of the world a student will volanterly stand up and say..Sir Im rich..so charge from me..also no where in this world students are being openly descriminated based on their financial status..if it s implemented,there willbe two gangs of studends..the rich gang and the poor gang and damned jeppas like you in the poor gang will beat many of the sudens who r in the rich gang&#8230;so what im saying is even a local uni can succesfuly undertake  vocational qualifications that requires low level of resources, they wont be able to handle separated or integrated bachelors degrees that require some students to pay a fee.</p>
<p>alsoi have to make some corrections&#8230;i said most of the local uni students r theory dumpers..but it applies mostly to art and commerce students.</p>
<p>Majority of local students r getting out of the uni as art graduates(mainly becase of the least entry requirements,) and theirs nothing suprised to see them protesting on roads to get a pina job(high supply-low demand,)</p>
<p>In commerce faculties they are learned to hate businesses and are regulerly exposed to damn jvp and other labor union type activities in sidethe uni<br />
Also they learn loads of theoris but they dont learn how to apply them&#8230;the funny part is only few of them can remember theoris after the graduation.<br />
Their attitude is being changed and no pvt company wants to recruit that type of people..JVP..yeah v all know it<br />
Finally i have to say JVP is the caus of this war, they r the cause of countries por developmet. and they r the cause of local unis to beregarded as low quality.</p>
<p>YES I hate JVP&#8230;.Specially somavansa who is manupilating poor weak people agains the country&#8230;(his son is studing and uk uni&#8230;wonder why he didnt let himstudy in j&#8217;pura)</p>
<p>gajaba i dnt expect any replys from u&#8230;coz i feel taling with u is useless&#8230;.any way u can say what ever u want bt dont expect my reply&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Non political academic</title>
		<link>http://www.educationforum.lk/2007/06/jvps-upaadhi-kada-and-upaadhi-dan-sel/comment-page-2/#comment-4711</link>
		<dc:creator>Non political academic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion.

Private intake into public universities vs. Public intake into private universities. (vouchers) etc. I do not think a consumer (student, parent) would see any difference, so as far as they are concerned there is no debate at all. 

It needs not be this or that. Both models can be used in parallel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion.</p>
<p>Private intake into public universities vs. Public intake into private universities. (vouchers) etc. I do not think a consumer (student, parent) would see any difference, so as far as they are concerned there is no debate at all. </p>
<p>It needs not be this or that. Both models can be used in parallel.</p>
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		<title>By: Yushan Naleendra Hannadi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yushan Naleendra Hannadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JVP is a curse.
I learned in CIMA class that tyres are public goods.
Tyre treatment like in 1989 should shut them up. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JVP is a curse.<br />
I learned in CIMA class that tyres are public goods.<br />
Tyre treatment like in 1989 should shut them up. <img src='http://www.educationforum.lk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Yushan Naleendra Thiyuwah</title>
		<link>http://www.educationforum.lk/2007/06/jvps-upaadhi-kada-and-upaadhi-dan-sel/comment-page-2/#comment-4695</link>
		<dc:creator>Yushan Naleendra Thiyuwah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JVP is a curse.
They should be starved to death.

Otherwise, tyre treatment like in 1989 should solve the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JVP is a curse.<br />
They should be starved to death.</p>
<p>Otherwise, tyre treatment like in 1989 should solve the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Weerawansa</title>
		<link>http://www.educationforum.lk/2007/06/jvps-upaadhi-kada-and-upaadhi-dan-sel/comment-page-2/#comment-4689</link>
		<dc:creator>Weerawansa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 11:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somawansa sahodaraya,

Well said. Only poor should be given the right to study. Not rich.

Gajaba sahodaraya is so right. He should be made the Vice Chancellor of Peradeniya University.

Down with Private universities. Only over our dead bodies. However, even if they open another ten public universities that is of no use to us because we will never get enough pass marks to enter. :-(

Gajaba sahodaraya, ohoma yan. ohoma yan. Kiyandako monawa hari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somawansa sahodaraya,</p>
<p>Well said. Only poor should be given the right to study. Not rich.</p>
<p>Gajaba sahodaraya is so right. He should be made the Vice Chancellor of Peradeniya University.</p>
<p>Down with Private universities. Only over our dead bodies. However, even if they open another ten public universities that is of no use to us because we will never get enough pass marks to enter. <img src='http://www.educationforum.lk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Gajaba sahodaraya, ohoma yan. ohoma yan. Kiyandako monawa hari.</p>
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		<title>By: Somawansa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somawansa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 06:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know about universities. Never been to one, even when it is raining. 

So I speak about brothels. My sister owns one. I used to visit there once or twice per week - before the raid, so I know how it works.

I suggest it is the duty of the government to encourage public brothels. No private brothels. They charge high. So only the rich can visit private prothels. Not poor. If there are no public brothels how come the poor get a fukc? It will further expand the gap between rich and poor. It will also result in the experience sex professionals (aka known as whores, prostitutes, sluts - sorry pardon my language) working in public brothels moving to private brothels. So the poor get only the unexperuenced workrs perhaps with STDs. The difference is just like the one between Nawaloka hospital and Kebithigollawa hospital. We cannot let that happen and let down the poor. Mr. Gajaba is correect.

So we should prevent the government letting private brothels open till public brothels are supported by government and financially strong enough. Of course if we want we can take a private intake to public brothels as suggested by Mr. Gajaba. It will help btoth rich and poor.

That is how they do it in USA, UK, New Zealand, Australia, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. In any of these places the poor get fukc for free. 

Mr. Gajaba is very intelligent. He should be careful when he sits because that might damage his brains. We all should listen to listen to him. He also knows to how to fish.

“Give a woman a fukc; you have entertained her for today. Teach a woman to fukc; and you have fed her for a lifetime” 

I totally agree with Mr. Gajaba on the above.

If this results in preventing private brothels for sometime, so be it. (Since my sister has closed her place now it does not matter.)

P.S. By the way, I am grateful to the web master for putting a nice pic of me there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know about universities. Never been to one, even when it is raining. </p>
<p>So I speak about brothels. My sister owns one. I used to visit there once or twice per week &#8211; before the raid, so I know how it works.</p>
<p>I suggest it is the duty of the government to encourage public brothels. No private brothels. They charge high. So only the rich can visit private prothels. Not poor. If there are no public brothels how come the poor get a fukc? It will further expand the gap between rich and poor. It will also result in the experience sex professionals (aka known as whores, prostitutes, sluts &#8211; sorry pardon my language) working in public brothels moving to private brothels. So the poor get only the unexperuenced workrs perhaps with STDs. The difference is just like the one between Nawaloka hospital and Kebithigollawa hospital. We cannot let that happen and let down the poor. Mr. Gajaba is correect.</p>
<p>So we should prevent the government letting private brothels open till public brothels are supported by government and financially strong enough. Of course if we want we can take a private intake to public brothels as suggested by Mr. Gajaba. It will help btoth rich and poor.</p>
<p>That is how they do it in USA, UK, New Zealand, Australia, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. In any of these places the poor get fukc for free. </p>
<p>Mr. Gajaba is very intelligent. He should be careful when he sits because that might damage his brains. We all should listen to listen to him. He also knows to how to fish.</p>
<p>“Give a woman a fukc; you have entertained her for today. Teach a woman to fukc; and you have fed her for a lifetime” </p>
<p>I totally agree with Mr. Gajaba on the above.</p>
<p>If this results in preventing private brothels for sometime, so be it. (Since my sister has closed her place now it does not matter.)</p>
<p>P.S. By the way, I am grateful to the web master for putting a nice pic of me there.</p>
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		<title>By: Gajaba</title>
		<link>http://www.educationforum.lk/2007/06/jvps-upaadhi-kada-and-upaadhi-dan-sel/comment-page-2/#comment-4644</link>
		<dc:creator>Gajaba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JustMal,

You said: &quot;Anyway Gajaba, as I said, Salary caps are not standard practice in any of these countries. They are only used in exceptional situations.&quot;

That is right. They are rich and education is not an exceptional situation for them. On the other hand, vast majority of us are poor, who cannot even absorb the price hike in bread, let alone paying university fees. So, education is an exception to us, this we need a step like above.

You said, &quot;With AFL, the industry suffered when a few rich clubs dominated and the fans lost interest. I assume that’s why this law was brought in.&quot;

This assumption is WRONG. Fans would lose interest if there is ONLY ONE or TWO RICH clubs, while all others are poor and have poor players. The reality is half of the clubs are very rich while the other half are not. In order to give EVERYONE a FAIR GO, they made a salary cap. Did you see anyone blaming these authorities &quot;anti-free-market&quot; or pro-JVP? :-)

Food and farming subsidies may be incentives to stay in poverty, but free education is not. Top class free education is an incentive get out of the  poverty. We see tens of thousands of poor children coming out of poverty, thanks to the top class free education given by public universities. (If  some university students are unemployed and agitated, it is not a problem of free-education but a problem of out dated syllabus. The fix for this is to update the courses to reflect todays economy, not setting up private universities).

&quot;Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime&quot;

&quot;Top class free education&quot; is the only way we can &quot;Teach a man to fish&quot; so that he can feed himself for a lifetime. If this results in preventing private universities for sometime, so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JustMal,</p>
<p>You said: &#8220;Anyway Gajaba, as I said, Salary caps are not standard practice in any of these countries. They are only used in exceptional situations.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is right. They are rich and education is not an exceptional situation for them. On the other hand, vast majority of us are poor, who cannot even absorb the price hike in bread, let alone paying university fees. So, education is an exception to us, this we need a step like above.</p>
<p>You said, &#8220;With AFL, the industry suffered when a few rich clubs dominated and the fans lost interest. I assume that’s why this law was brought in.&#8221;</p>
<p>This assumption is WRONG. Fans would lose interest if there is ONLY ONE or TWO RICH clubs, while all others are poor and have poor players. The reality is half of the clubs are very rich while the other half are not. In order to give EVERYONE a FAIR GO, they made a salary cap. Did you see anyone blaming these authorities &#8220;anti-free-market&#8221; or pro-JVP? <img src='http://www.educationforum.lk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Food and farming subsidies may be incentives to stay in poverty, but free education is not. Top class free education is an incentive get out of the  poverty. We see tens of thousands of poor children coming out of poverty, thanks to the top class free education given by public universities. (If  some university students are unemployed and agitated, it is not a problem of free-education but a problem of out dated syllabus. The fix for this is to update the courses to reflect todays economy, not setting up private universities).</p>
<p>&#8220;Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Top class free education&#8221; is the only way we can &#8220;Teach a man to fish&#8221; so that he can feed himself for a lifetime. If this results in preventing private universities for sometime, so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: Coordinator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coordinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prevention of private universities until public universities are strengthened to be able to compete with them??????

Gajaba, wake up man, central planning went out of fashion way back even before you were born even. 

Secondly, who are these people who are going to sit in the middle and strengthen the universities? Look around. Look at the vice Chancellors, Deans and the various categories of non-academic staff, the members of UGC. These people can&#039;t keep to a time-table in the universities. There is no discipline. They don&#039;t take the hard decisions. They deliver sub standard products as graduates and they have no shame. They keep collecting their paychecks. There is no chance in hell that these people can turn around anything unless they get  some competition. 

Opportunities to education means opportunities pure and simple. Don&#039;t get hung up on the provider or try to perpetuate a rotted system. The government in this country has proven over and over that is not capable of providing services to people. It is not only that. The government is the biggest exploiter of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prevention of private universities until public universities are strengthened to be able to compete with them??????</p>
<p>Gajaba, wake up man, central planning went out of fashion way back even before you were born even. </p>
<p>Secondly, who are these people who are going to sit in the middle and strengthen the universities? Look around. Look at the vice Chancellors, Deans and the various categories of non-academic staff, the members of UGC. These people can&#8217;t keep to a time-table in the universities. There is no discipline. They don&#8217;t take the hard decisions. They deliver sub standard products as graduates and they have no shame. They keep collecting their paychecks. There is no chance in hell that these people can turn around anything unless they get  some competition. </p>
<p>Opportunities to education means opportunities pure and simple. Don&#8217;t get hung up on the provider or try to perpetuate a rotted system. The government in this country has proven over and over that is not capable of providing services to people. It is not only that. The government is the biggest exploiter of people.</p>
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		<title>By: JustMal</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustMal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Piss off Sri. Go tell your life&#039;s story to someone who cares. Haha..

Anyway Gajaba, as I said, Salary caps are not standard practice in any of these countries. They are only used in exceptional situations. With AFL, the industry suffered when a few rich clubs dominated and the fans lost interest. I assume that&#039;s why this law was brought in. If salary caps are imposed in Sri Lankan universities, why would any worthy academic stay in the country? What do you propose we do then, prevent them from emigrating? Subsidies, welfare and social justice are luxuries that these rich developed countries can afford - and we cannot. It&#039;s not our fault that these people continue to be poor and dependent on the government. Why should we feed, clothe and educate them? Aren&#039;t we going against the laws of nature by preventing the natural selection of the fit and able?

If private institutions cannot provide an education comparable to the standards of foreign universities owing to the sort of restrictions you propose, what would stop anyone from sending their children overseas anyway? Perhaps you want to stop that as well.

The reason these people are stuck in poverty is because there is no incentive for them to get out of it as long as we provide everything free for them. Starve the bastards, and then they will wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piss off Sri. Go tell your life&#8217;s story to someone who cares. Haha..</p>
<p>Anyway Gajaba, as I said, Salary caps are not standard practice in any of these countries. They are only used in exceptional situations. With AFL, the industry suffered when a few rich clubs dominated and the fans lost interest. I assume that&#8217;s why this law was brought in. If salary caps are imposed in Sri Lankan universities, why would any worthy academic stay in the country? What do you propose we do then, prevent them from emigrating? Subsidies, welfare and social justice are luxuries that these rich developed countries can afford &#8211; and we cannot. It&#8217;s not our fault that these people continue to be poor and dependent on the government. Why should we feed, clothe and educate them? Aren&#8217;t we going against the laws of nature by preventing the natural selection of the fit and able?</p>
<p>If private institutions cannot provide an education comparable to the standards of foreign universities owing to the sort of restrictions you propose, what would stop anyone from sending their children overseas anyway? Perhaps you want to stop that as well.</p>
<p>The reason these people are stuck in poverty is because there is no incentive for them to get out of it as long as we provide everything free for them. Starve the bastards, and then they will wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: Weerawansa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weerawansa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mokada sahodaraya janatha dhrohee katha karanne?

Ape satanata sahayogaya denavada, nethnam api 1988 di wage podi thundu kellak evanda da?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mokada sahodaraya janatha dhrohee katha karanne?</p>
<p>Ape satanata sahayogaya denavada, nethnam api 1988 di wage podi thundu kellak evanda da?</p>
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