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	<title>Comments on: Test of English for International Communication (TOEIC) for non native English speakers</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Phipps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Phipps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you prepare for the TOEIC test? `
How do you know when you have a good chance of getting the score you need? 
How do you know your preparation material is good?

But do you need to prepare? The answer is a very positive YES! Even if you think your level of English is good enough.

We have seen so many very good English speakers get lower scores just because they did not prepare for the test. These students underestimated how long to spend answering questions or just concentrated too hard because they were nervous and spent a lot of energy and time understanding how to answer the questions.

The TOIEC test certainly has come down in price, but to fail will mean that you have to sit it again. This costs not only time, but also more money. 

OK so why am I telling you all this? Naturally because after reading the comments, I would like to put a mention here of my website at www.onlineenglish900.com.

Who am I? I am the manager of HamburgEnglish, a TOEIC test center in Germany. I am also an authorized TOEIC administrator with many years teaching experience in business English.

I would welcome the students of this forum to the website to prepare. Yes OK it is not free, but at only 9 Euro for a 5 day quick-prep membership it is not expensive either and can mean the difference between getting the score you need or not!

Also, if you write to me wishing a membership for more than one student, I will look at reducing the prices for you further.

Happy training,

Rob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you prepare for the TOEIC test? `<br />
How do you know when you have a good chance of getting the score you need?<br />
How do you know your preparation material is good?</p>
<p>But do you need to prepare? The answer is a very positive YES! Even if you think your level of English is good enough.</p>
<p>We have seen so many very good English speakers get lower scores just because they did not prepare for the test. These students underestimated how long to spend answering questions or just concentrated too hard because they were nervous and spent a lot of energy and time understanding how to answer the questions.</p>
<p>The TOIEC test certainly has come down in price, but to fail will mean that you have to sit it again. This costs not only time, but also more money. </p>
<p>OK so why am I telling you all this? Naturally because after reading the comments, I would like to put a mention here of my website at <a href="http://www.onlineenglish900.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlineenglish900.com</a>.</p>
<p>Who am I? I am the manager of HamburgEnglish, a TOEIC test center in Germany. I am also an authorized TOEIC administrator with many years teaching experience in business English.</p>
<p>I would welcome the students of this forum to the website to prepare. Yes OK it is not free, but at only 9 Euro for a 5 day quick-prep membership it is not expensive either and can mean the difference between getting the score you need or not!</p>
<p>Also, if you write to me wishing a membership for more than one student, I will look at reducing the prices for you further.</p>
<p>Happy training,</p>
<p>Rob.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Gaminitillake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Gaminitillake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ETS has given the lowest $32
Since the $ is going up and up every day in terms of  LKR value the cost goes up ++ plus there is a Govt Tax of 15%
Thanks for your comments on TOEIC in Japan
Ingrin passes the total value to students without any added fees

Donald Gaminitillake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ETS has given the lowest $32<br />
Since the $ is going up and up every day in terms of  LKR value the cost goes up ++ plus there is a Govt Tax of 15%<br />
Thanks for your comments on TOEIC in Japan<br />
Ingrin passes the total value to students without any added fees</p>
<p>Donald Gaminitillake</p>
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		<title>By: chand</title>
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		<dc:creator>chand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m writing from Japan.

Most of the Japanese companies evaluate a person&#039;s English language skills by using TOEIC score whether or not it really reflects her real ability. 
So, I think it&#039;s not a bad idea for giving Sri Lankans the opportunity to take the exam in Sri Lanka.

I have no doubt that there is a commission for organizing the exam. It is natural!
In Japan it costs around 6000 yen (approximately, 6000 rupees)
to take the exam. As the average income here is so high comparing to Sri Lanka, they can take the exam easily. In my humble opinion, you should negotiate with ETS to make it less expensive to take the exam if you really want to gain its popularity in Sri Lanka.

About the new format of the exam
http://www.ets.org/portal/site/ets/menuitem.22f30af61d34e9c39a77b13bc3921509/?vgnextoid=1b5ed87dcc9ae010VgnVCM10000022f95190RCRD

Current situation in Japan
http://www.seekjapan.jp/article/1271/J-myth+5:++TOEIC+scores+prove+low+Japanese+English+ability

Regards,

    Chand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m writing from Japan.</p>
<p>Most of the Japanese companies evaluate a person&#8217;s English language skills by using TOEIC score whether or not it really reflects her real ability.<br />
So, I think it&#8217;s not a bad idea for giving Sri Lankans the opportunity to take the exam in Sri Lanka.</p>
<p>I have no doubt that there is a commission for organizing the exam. It is natural!<br />
In Japan it costs around 6000 yen (approximately, 6000 rupees)<br />
to take the exam. As the average income here is so high comparing to Sri Lanka, they can take the exam easily. In my humble opinion, you should negotiate with ETS to make it less expensive to take the exam if you really want to gain its popularity in Sri Lanka.</p>
<p>About the new format of the exam<br />
<a href="http://www.ets.org/portal/site/ets/menuitem.22f30af61d34e9c39a77b13bc3921509/?vgnextoid=1b5ed87dcc9ae010VgnVCM10000022f95190RCRD" rel="nofollow">http://www.ets.org/portal/site/ets/menuitem.22f30af61d34e9c39a77b13bc3921509/?vgnextoid=1b5ed87dcc9ae010VgnVCM10000022f95190RCRD</a></p>
<p>Current situation in Japan<br />
<a href="http://www.seekjapan.jp/article/1271/J-myth+5:++TOEIC+scores+prove+low+Japanese+English+ability" rel="nofollow">http://www.seekjapan.jp/article/1271/J-myth+5:++TOEIC+scores+prove+low+Japanese+English+ability</a></p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>    Chand</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Gaminitillake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Gaminitillake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of them were students at Ingrin
one or two outsiders who are employed

They are unable to keep phase with the speed

I am getting the detail report week after next 
Once I get it shall post where our students went wrong

Next batch please register soon

Donald</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of them were students at Ingrin<br />
one or two outsiders who are employed</p>
<p>They are unable to keep phase with the speed</p>
<p>I am getting the detail report week after next<br />
Once I get it shall post where our students went wrong</p>
<p>Next batch please register soon</p>
<p>Donald</p>
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		<title>By: topshot</title>
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		<dc:creator>topshot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gamini,
Who took the toie exam ?
Students or employees?

getting 260 is realy I hard I guess. lol
I thought anyone can get atleast 300 plus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gamini,<br />
Who took the toie exam ?<br />
Students or employees?</p>
<p>getting 260 is realy I hard I guess. lol<br />
I thought anyone can get atleast 300 plus.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Gaminitillake</title>
		<link>http://www.educationforum.lk/2007/09/test-of-english-for-international-communication-toeic-for-non-native-english-speakers/comment-page-1/#comment-7456</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Gaminitillake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The results are out

1.TOEIC - 950 (overall) reading 455 listening 495
2.TOEIC - 765 (overall) reading 355 listening 410
3.TOEIC - 610 (overall) reading 230 listening 380

Lowest
TOEIC - 260 (overall) reading 100 listening 160

1 is just out of a/l unemployed 

surprise is the lowest ---  working in a leading bank!!!!!!


Most complained that they could not keep phase with the speed 
Some could not fill the form without aid. specially writing the name
They get stuck when they see DDMMYYYY
This clearly show how slow we are and more to learn
need to expose the youth to the international arena

The results will be checked and guide them in weak areas to achieve better results 

Donald Gaminitillake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The results are out</p>
<p>1.TOEIC &#8211; 950 (overall) reading 455 listening 495<br />
2.TOEIC &#8211; 765 (overall) reading 355 listening 410<br />
3.TOEIC &#8211; 610 (overall) reading 230 listening 380</p>
<p>Lowest<br />
TOEIC &#8211; 260 (overall) reading 100 listening 160</p>
<p>1 is just out of a/l unemployed </p>
<p>surprise is the lowest &#8212;  working in a leading bank!!!!!!</p>
<p>Most complained that they could not keep phase with the speed<br />
Some could not fill the form without aid. specially writing the name<br />
They get stuck when they see DDMMYYYY<br />
This clearly show how slow we are and more to learn<br />
need to expose the youth to the international arena</p>
<p>The results will be checked and guide them in weak areas to achieve better results </p>
<p>Donald Gaminitillake</p>
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		<title>By: top shot</title>
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		<dc:creator>top shot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOEIC is for business communication perporses in english working enviroment.
IELTS and TOEFL are designed for more academic perporses like entering Universities.

I took all 3 tests within 3 month of time period.
My results are

TOEIC - 945 (overall) reading 460 listening 485
TOEFL(paper based) - 597 (overall)
IELTS - 7.5 (overall)

It is good test to test your english specially in business enviroment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOEIC is for business communication perporses in english working enviroment.<br />
IELTS and TOEFL are designed for more academic perporses like entering Universities.</p>
<p>I took all 3 tests within 3 month of time period.<br />
My results are</p>
<p>TOEIC &#8211; 945 (overall) reading 460 listening 485<br />
TOEFL(paper based) &#8211; 597 (overall)<br />
IELTS &#8211; 7.5 (overall)</p>
<p>It is good test to test your english specially in business enviroment.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Gaminitillake</title>
		<link>http://www.educationforum.lk/2007/09/test-of-english-for-international-communication-toeic-for-non-native-english-speakers/comment-page-1/#comment-6955</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Gaminitillake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOEIC is different, If you want to go to Canada, US, Korea, Japan , China you need TOIEC
even if you are a waiter
TOIEC opens a whole world for you. 
TOIEC is not a business for myself, It is a service given by self. The fee is for ETS US$32 per person plus Bank fees
No worries

Donald Gaminitillake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOEIC is different, If you want to go to Canada, US, Korea, Japan , China you need TOIEC<br />
even if you are a waiter<br />
TOIEC opens a whole world for you.<br />
TOIEC is not a business for myself, It is a service given by self. The fee is for ETS US$32 per person plus Bank fees<br />
No worries</p>
<p>Donald Gaminitillake</p>
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		<title>By: Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think IELTS kicks TOEIC butt. 

Ane paw. Whenever Donald starts a business, there is a &#039;henehura&#039; to stop that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think IELTS kicks TOEIC butt. </p>
<p>Ane paw. Whenever Donald starts a business, there is a &#8216;henehura&#8217; to stop that.</p>
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		<title>By: Justmal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justmal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think IELTS kicks TOEIC butt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think IELTS kicks TOEIC butt.</p>
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